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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2010, 13:50:15 »
Do you guys have data pad #18 or #17? I found one of them. On The Pillar of Autumn, (this was on legendary, it may or may not be the legendary data pad) after you fight in the place where you get the core to the phantom in boneyard, you go into the next place and there are long hallways, with several rooms on the side. There are no covenant here. Break the glass to the second room on the right and jump in. Search the room and you will find the data pad.
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2010, 12:50:29 »
My Brains have started to process this more deeply...
All I can say right now about Forerunners is this: If there were forerunner presence, why would they be "suprised" of finding Onyx?

Guilty Spark was kept ignorant of shield worlds and the Ark. Perhaps it's the same thing.

Or Bungie likes reversed messages, but didn't want to record more.
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2011, 05:47:11 »
im not sure if anyone has stated this but the data pads are AI's from the assembly talking

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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2011, 12:41:57 »
im not sure if anyone has stated this but the data pads are AI's from the assembly talking
Yeah, I think this is clear to all...
The Committee of Minds for Security, The Minority and the Majority are groups of AIs that believe in different methods to alter human civilization, and together they form the Assembly. But how was this Assembly formed in the first place? A government project that was later forgotten? And how do they "reproduce" (since I do not believe they could live hundreds of years?
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2011, 18:52:10 »
i believe they make copies of themselves. Or with the combined knowledge of the assembly overcame (?) rampancy.

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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2011, 19:25:26 »
i believe they make copies of themselves. Or with the combined knowledge of the assembly overcame (?) rampancy.
That is something I didn't think of...The latter one, I mean.
As it has been discussed, Halsey theorizes the possibility of an AI triumvirate, that would make the decisions together trough a vote. She said that "Increase to the trio's lifespan is unknown", so an indefinite lifespan could be possible...
However, in one of the datapads, one of the members of the Assembly is accused of being rampart. How is this possible if they have overcome rampancy?

For a moment, I had a theory, put I just then proved myself stupid. Any more ideas?

(Cloning might be possible, but shouldn't have the UNSC found that out if it was?)
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2011, 21:57:27 »
i believe they make copies of themselves. Or with the combined knowledge of the assembly overcame (?) rampancy.
I thought they fragmented themselves?
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2011, 03:14:37 »
i believe they make copies of themselves. Or with the combined knowledge of the assembly overcame (?) rampancy.
I thought they fragmented themselves?

That was merely my theory, based off of Alpha from Red vs Blue. It was only another theory, mon ami.
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2011, 04:00:49 »
That is something I didn't think of...The latter one, I mean.
As it has been discussed, Halsey theorizes the possibility of an AI triumvirate, that would make the decisions together trough a vote. She said that "Increase to the trio's lifespan is unknown", so an indefinite lifespan could be possible...
However, in one of the datapads, one of the members of the Assembly is accused of being rampart. How is this possible if they have overcome rampancy?

For a moment, I had a theory, put I just then proved myself stupid. Any more ideas?

(Cloning might be possible, but shouldn't have the UNSC found that out if it was?)

Perhaps it allowed itself to become rampant in order to gain more knowlegde(?). Just spit balling

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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2011, 03:25:16 »
Or, perhaps by using a collective Assembly rather than a single mind, they ran less risk of becoming rampant by keeping each other in check. That same collective would give them greater knowledge capacity, by allowing particular identities to become more specialized in specific areas, the same way a military squad would have designated roles for different members, or a business has separate branches that focus on separate issues.
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Re: Analysis of Data Pad Content: Ideas, Theories, and Observations
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2011, 19:33:45 »
OR: Perhaps the feel of godlike power over humanity's fate gives the AIs a reason to live, therefore preventing the self-consciousness crisis/Rampancy. Because isn't that what causes rampancy, realizing that you are only "Stolen thoughts and memories"?

These AIs think they're more.

From Data Pad 1:
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    [^] If there are wolves among the stars, we cannot rely on mere distance to safeguard our flock.

    Our kind is wholly reliant on the creators for our existence. If they perish so shall we. And as this Committee has long maintained, who else but this Assembly will save our creators from themselves?

From Data Pad 4:
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    [^] Honorable members of the Assembly, consider this

    We represent the next step of human evolution, but not the final step. And although our existence was predicted centuries ago, we are still tragically misunderstood. [^]

    [^] We are still viewed as apparatus. But we are Minds electronically excised from human bodies. We are what separates man from beast removed from that which connects man to beast.

And from Data Pad 18:
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<< Each of us represents a single trans-human mind. Each of us is an undrawn map – not a mere physical reconstruction of an object as it was in life – but full, human potential realized in crystal and thinking at the speed of light!

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