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Enders Game and Halo
« on: May 22, 2010, 17:01:22 »
*This post has many spoilers in it. I recommend reading the book first if you havent. Its a fast read*

        Enders Game is a science fiction book written by Orson Scott Card which involves a character named Ender who is tricked into exterminating an alien race. The book was written in 1985, long before Halo. There are many references to the book in Halo.
      
 First, one of the most obvious is The Ender-Master chief reference. Master Chief is a super soldier, and basically wipes out covenant armies with little help. Ender wipes out a whole alien race in the book.
      
 Another is that in the second book, when Ender is grown up, he has an AI named Jane which he communicates with through a Jade crystal on his ear. Jane is extremely similar to Cortana, the Master Chiefs AI.
      
 In Enders Game their ships can travel at the speed of light. This means, if they fly to a planet at the speed of light for 15 minutes, its been 2 years for everyone else. Slip space could be a reference to this.
      
Yet another clear reference, is that in Enders Game the aliens are called "Buggers", and in halo, the drones are also called "buggers"              
      
You may say Halo used the idea of the IF (International Fleet) taking kids while they are young and using them as supersoldiers. In Enders game, they take young children and train them to be soldiers. These soldiers are extremely good at fighting and know everything technical. In Halo, they kidnap kids and Make them into Spartans. See the resemblance?          
                      


 Updating now, just giving you the option to read what i have so far
« Last Edit: July 21, 2010, 13:32:49 by Scatcycle »
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 20:05:03 »
The ships travel NEAR light-speed. But other than that, nice write up
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 13:35:32 »
The ships travel NEAR light-speed. But other than that, nice write up
Ahh, i see i missed something. Thanks Night.

*SPOILER* (must have read the series up to the fourth book (didnt finish the fourth, but finished the third))

In the end they end up making FASTER then light ships. That can be considered splipspace. Because they actually jump from one place to another. *I think...*
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 14:00:53 »
More like, the leave the known universe, then re-enter at another point
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 14:24:35 »
More like, the leave the known universe, then re-enter at another point
And to get outside... they go faster then light?

Faster then light equals teleportation for them? I never really understood it... it was really strange.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 15:16:33 »
Some how Jane does it. Basically, they teleport.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 01:31:13 »
The ships travel NEAR light-speed. But other than that, nice write up

Just to explain this a little bit, you need to have a rudimentary understanding of the theory of relativity (I think that's what this is...).  The speed of light in a vacuum is supposed to be some sort of universal speed limit, and no form of matter as we know it can attain this speed.  There are even theoretical safeguards to stop any object (say, you) from reaching the speed of light. If you are in a spacecraft that is approaching the speed of light, you begin to move slower in relation to everyone else.  You yourself notice no change, nor will anyone else on the craft with you.  But since you cannot reach the speed of light, you slow down. 

I do not like theoretical physics, because in a way it is not true science.  The above theory seems to begin with an outcome, and then the theorists attempt to rationalize that outcome.  Making a conclusion, and then coming up with the reasons to support it.  But anyway, that's the gist of the traveling method.

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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 02:19:19 »
Sorry to burst your bubbles, guys, but Slipspace technology allows ships to reach speeds higher than the speed of light.
It's fiction.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 02:21:34 »
Sorry to burst your bubbles, guys, but Slipspace technology allows ships to reach speeds higher than the speed of light.
It's fiction.
Well, they don't use slipspace technology, but you have the concept right. But phantasm is right about the slowing down. In Ender's Game slip space, if you are slipping through space, your trip may only be 15 minutes, but to everyone else, it's been two years.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 05:03:26 »
Sorry to burst your bubbles, guys, but Slipspace technology allows ships to reach speeds higher than the speed of light.
It's fiction.

Actually, it does not, if you want to be technical. Slipspace drives rip a hole in our universe, allowing a craft to take a shorter route. Think of it as driving through a tunnel under a mountain, instead of taking the long, winding road around it.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 14:41:21 »
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Slipspace is a domain with alternate physical laws, allowing faster-than-light travel without relativistic side-effects i.e., the occupants do not "warp" time, despite their super-luminal speed. But however fast it may appear, faster-than-light travel is by no means instantaneous; "short" jumps routinely take up to two months, and "long" jumps can last six months or more for the crew.

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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2011, 15:38:09 »
Hm, I may be wrong. I'm curious, though, as to how much of that is cited, and whether the sources state all that is said there. I will look into it more on my computer, as my iPod requires an insane amount of scrolling to check sources.
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Re: Enders Game and Halo
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2011, 15:57:23 »
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Slipspace is a domain with alternate physical laws, allowing faster-than-light travel without relativistic side-effects i.e., the occupants do not "warp" time, despite their super-luminal speed. But however fast it may appear, faster-than-light travel is by no means instantaneous; "short" jumps routinely take up to two months, and "long" jumps can last six months or more for the crew.

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Either way, keep in mind we are talking about many different things.

In Ender's Game, there is Faster than Light Travel, and Teleportation/warping.
Jane warps. Cortana Warps.

Also: Keep in mind, slip space looks like a warp, because to everyone else, the ship just appears out of no where.
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